President Donald Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani said that the Trump campaign’s challenge in the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn three Pennsylvania Supreme Court decisions is the first of many efforts they will undertake until Jan. 20.
“You have to go state by state,” the former mayor and federal prosecutor told Newsmax, noting that a victory in Pennsylvania would only impact 20 electoral votes.
The campaign filed an appeal to the Supreme Court to reverse cases by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court that changed mail-in ballot laws. The campaign, via the petition, has sought the reversal of three cases decided by the state’s Supreme Court that “illegally changed” the mail-in ballot laws “immediately before and after the 2020 presidential election,” arguing that the Supreme Court’s decisions are in violation of Article II of the Constitution and the 2000 Bush v. Gore ruling.
“I remember an old adage that I learned from baseball,” Giuliani added. “When you’re down by 10 runs, you can’t score 10 runs on one hit. So you got to get one run at a time. So the way I look at it, we have to win one of these legislatures. I think we have three good ones to pick from: Pennsylvania and Georgia and Arizona.”
During state legislative hearings over the past several weeks in several states, Giuliani and fellow Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis brought in people who alleged voter fraud or irregularities during the general election.
Because of those hearings, Giuliani said the team believes they have enough evidence of fraud to force state legislatures to act to reaffirm their own slates of electors.
“The state legislature,” he said, “has a very, very strong basis to make a determination the election in those three states were stolen.” Giuliani then argued that state Houses and Senates are the final arbiters over certifying a state’s election.
Also in the interview, the former mayor stressed that lawyer Sidney Powell, who has filed third-party lawsuits in favor of Trump, is not part of their team and efforts.
“Let me say definitively: Sidney Powell is not part of our legal team. She hasn’t been for five weeks. She is not a special counsel for the president,” Giuliani remarked. “She does not speak for the president, nor does she speak for the administration. She speaks for herself. And she’s a fine woman, a fine lawyer. But whatever she is talking about it’s her own opinion. I’m not responsible for them. The president isn’t, nor is anybody else on our legal team.”
Giuliani then stipulated that the Trump team will not flout the Constitution or law.
It came as Ellis told Just The News that she does not favor invoking the 1807 Insurrection Act to deal with election fraud, as some have suggested.
“We have a constitutional process for a reason, and we have the judicial branch that really does need to step in,” Ellis added. “I think that the Supreme Court absolutely let the American people down by refusing to take up the Texas case.”
In another comment, Ellis wrote that the Insurrection Act does not apply in this circumstance.
“We do not undermine the rule of law,” she said.
